Curse

Rhedd · Dec 31, 2007, 12:31 AM // 00:31

I think a LOT of people here (thankfully, not Gaile) are totally missing the point.

It's not a matter of how effective these people are being at being mean, it's the fact that they're being MEAN.

It's not a matter of how easy it is to avoid their meanness, it's that they're being MEAN.

Who really cares if they completely fail to annoy anyone? The mere fact that they're spending their time TRYING to make life miserable for other people should, indeed, be an "actionable" offense.

I'd ban them, if it were up to me (it's not -_-), simply because anyone who thinks it's fun to ruin other people's fun isn't the sort of person I want anywhere near me.

anonymous · Dec 31, 2007, 01:49 AM // 01:49

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Originally Posted by Hexum

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Stereotypical idiot? Just because someone is young doesn't make them stupid, I've met plenty of stupid adults too.

//RogueNine · Dec 31, 2007, 01:51 AM // 01:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhedd

I think a LOT of people here (thankfully, not Gaile) are totally missing the point.

It's not a matter of how effective these people are being at being mean, it's the fact that they're being MEAN.

It's not a matter of how easy it is to avoid their meanness, it's that they're being MEAN.

Who really cares if they completely fail to annoy anyone? The mere fact that they're spending their time TRYING to make life miserable for other people should, indeed, be an "actionable" offense.

I'd ban them, if it were up to me (it's not -_-), simply because anyone who thinks it's fun to ruin other people's fun isn't the sort of person I want anywhere near me.

Roger that. The idiots doing this are probably ones that cause any sort of griefing they can, getting enjoyment out of ruining other peoples fun. Not the reason people play/buy games. If it were up to me I would ban em too.

Darkobra · Dec 31, 2007, 02:00 AM // 02:00

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Originally Posted by anonymous

Stereotypical idiot? Just because someone is young doesn't make them stupid, I've met plenty of stupid adults too.

Exactly. The people who think it's only the young ones who are very stupid obviously don't have a job.

Creeping Carl · Dec 31, 2007, 02:11 AM // 02:11

Wow. Sad that people are even wasting their time trying to grief others...

And to those that are whining about this being a non-issue, I suppose it is a non issue to myself as well since I don't play this particular mini-game, but when someone is going out of his way to screw up the fun for others (And ANET's work in setting up the minigame) then yes it IS an issue.

It's best to stop this type of crap before it starts spreading. Changing districts is a solution but how does that prevent it from happening again or prevent more people from doing it?

Croco Clouds · Dec 31, 2007, 04:23 AM // 04:23

They grief at holiday probably because they got mobbed and died during their first ever unsuccessful farming

Redfeather1975 · Dec 31, 2007, 04:28 AM // 04:28

Maybe if someone is found inhibiting other people's enjoyment of something in game, the guilty party should be teleported to a magic empty district void of people to mess with.

Then they have to log off cuz there's nobody to upset so it wouldn't be worth playing to them.

Leslie · Dec 31, 2007, 05:39 AM // 05:39

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Originally Posted by Redfeather1975

Maybe if someone is found inhibiting other people's enjoyment of something in game, the guilty party should be teleported to a magic empty district void of people to mess with.

Then they have to log off cuz there's nobody to upset so it wouldn't be worth playing to them.

Then everyone tries to do that anyway so there's no moronic goings on in local chat?

Gaile Gray · Dec 31, 2007, 05:50 AM // 05:50

I did a run-through of all active districts this afternoon and didn't see this griefing going on. If you do see someone doing it, feel free to report that person. We don't have the "/report: unfestive behavior" command in place yet and I know we can't do a leeching (for "leeching the fun out of the event") report in towns.

If you want to report, maybe with a screenshot, feel free. The Support Team responded to my questions about this that, given sufficient proof, they would likely block the account of those who were doing it.

I just hope that everyone stops and remembers that thing called "Holiday Spirit."

Scary Raebbit · Dec 31, 2007, 06:14 AM // 06:14

See if it was just a male monk doing it, then I wouldn't have taken the side of the complainers.
But they are female mesmers.
And that=automatic bitches.
They must be smashed.

I Is Special · Dec 31, 2007, 06:26 AM // 06:26

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Originally Posted by Scary Raebbit

See if it was just a male monk doing it, then I wouldn't have taken the side of the complainers.
But they are female mesmers.
And that=automatic bitches.
They must be smashed.

Hmm... I dont get it

Just to be mean all the people doing that should be banned for the finale so they cant get hats or gifts

N E D M · Dec 31, 2007, 06:39 AM // 06:39

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Originally Posted by Azagoth

You sure that your skill bar is big enough?

i like the pretty icons

also removed pic now that gaile is on the job, since it was unedited with all names in it
Thanks for the support everyone
Malice - I am ashamed and my respect for you is diminished.

Redfeather1975 · Dec 31, 2007, 06:45 AM // 06:45

How about if someone does this, nothing happens right away...but when they are getting their wintersday hat they are given a lump of coal instead, and a note that they were a bad boy/girl this year with a screenshot of them hiding presents.

garethporlest18 · Dec 31, 2007, 06:50 AM // 06:50

There is someone doing it in Kamadan district 1 right now. I'm laughing at them for being fools.

Gaile Gray · Dec 31, 2007, 08:50 AM // 08:50

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Originally Posted by Redfeather1975

How about if someone does this, nothing happens right away...but when they are getting their wintersday hat they are given a lump of coal instead, and a note that they were a bad boy/girl this year with a screenshot of them hiding presents.

OOoh, tempting. Very tempting.

Sea Edge · Dec 31, 2007, 09:18 AM // 09:18

Maybe it's related.

Quote:

Originally Posted by (GM)Dave
Multiplayer Means More Than You

Ahem.

This is a public service announcement. Please pay very close attention.

FFXI is an MMORPG. Do you know what MMORPG stands for?

Why are you actually answering me? You're reading this on a computer screen and I can't possibly hear you.

Some people.

Anyway, MMORPG stand for Massively Multiplayer Online RolePlaying Game.

Now, I want everyone to look very closely at the second word there.

Multiplayer.

As basic an idea as this is, you'd be surprised how many people do not understand this concept.

The difficult part to understand seems to be that not everyone is trying to help you with your game. Some of them (read: most of them) actually want to do much better than you and may (read: will) step on you to get ahead.

Yes, yes. I know, I know. When you play on your Playstation by yourself all the other characters help you.

Well... Except that ***** Yuffie. That **** was just wrong.

Now, you step into this big online world and nobody wants to help you. Hell, half of them are probably getting in your way.

This is normal.

This is not an emergency.

This is certainly not a good reason to make a GM call.

Those other people don't have to help you out. They don't. It doesn't matter if what they're doing makes your life harder, as long as they don't kill you, it's fine.

But still, everyday I get the most assinine calls from people who try to report someone for ruining a quest or taking an item or something equally stupid.

Not an emergency.

Let me give you an example. There's a monster in the game called Overgrown Rose. This monster drops a very nice ring called Vilma's Ring. Unfortunately, the drop rate is not very good.

This is bad.

If this monster is left alone for a long enough time, it will change into a different monster called Rose Garden. This monster also drops the Vilma's Ring, but the drop rate is 100%.

This is good.

Sadly, it can take several hours for this change to occur and your chances of no one else touching Overgrown Rose in that time are practically zero.

This is bad.

So, each day, I get at least one call from some ***** who wants the Vilma's Ring, but people keep killing his Overgrown Rose before it can change.

This is very bad.

This person then feels it is somehow my problem and that the other person should be banned.

This is retarded.

Just this afternoon, I was in the middle of an amazing crafting session when I got the daily call.

GM Call Description: Other player stole my Overgrown Rose. Help.

It seems Fate decided to step in at this exact second.

Critical crafting failure. All materials lost. Millions down the drain.

[GM]Dave needed to release some tension.

*cue ominous music*

[GM]Dave>> Hail, Adventurer.
[GM]Dave>> Apparently, you're having trouble with a flower.
[GM]Dave>> That's no reason to feel less like a man.
Player>> I don't feel less like a man.
[GM]Dave>> Really?
[GM]Dave>> Not at all?
[GM]Dave>> Cause that is pretty pathetic.
Player>> I'm trying to get him to change into Rose Garden.
Player>> But people keep killing him.
[GM]Dave>> Uh huh. Let me write this down.
[GM]Dave>> People are killing a monster.
[GM]Dave>> In an RPG.
[GM]Dave>> An RPG where you kill monsters.
[GM]Dave>> Those bastards.
Player>> This is serious.
Player>> I asked them not to kill him, but they don't listen.
Player>> They're basically stealing.
[GM]Dave>> Why did you say "basically" there?
Player>> What do you mean?
[GM]Dave>> The word "basically".
[GM]Dave>> Why did you have to say it?
Player>> Well... Because they're not really stealing.
[GM]Dave>> Exactly.
[GM]Dave>> And if they didn't steal it, this is not an...
Player>> Emergency?
[GM]Dave>> Two for two.
[GM]Dave>> I'm starting to think you're not a complete *****.
Player>> But it's wrong for them to take it.
Player>> It was my Rose.
[GM]Dave>> Spoke too soon.
[GM]Dave>> It's not your Rose.
[GM]Dave>> Not.
[GM]Dave>> And you can't expect people to leave it alone.
[GM]Dave>> No matter how many times you say pretty please.
Player>> This is bullshit!
Player>> You need to do something!
[GM]Dave>> I'm way ahead of you.

*warp*

Player>> I meant do something to them.
[GM]Dave>> This will be a lesson on being more clear when you speak.
Player>> You can't suspend me for this.
Player>> I'll sue.
[GM]Dave>> Oh, I'm not going to suspend you.
[GM]Dave>> I'm not even going to ban you.
Player>> Really?
Player>> Then what am I doing here?
[GM]Dave>> We're going to play a little game.
[GM]Dave>> Are you ready?
Player>> Ready.

This is when I spawned monsters into Mordion Gaol. Hundreds of them, all surrounding him.

Did I spawn a bunch of angry dragons?

No.

Maybe some ferocious HNMs?

Nope.

Instead, I spawned every low level NM in the game. Leaping Lizzy, Jaggedy-Eared Jack, Argus, Mee Deggi, Hoo Mjuu.

They were all there.

Millions upon millions upon millions worth of items standing right in front of him.

Player>> HOLY ****!!!
[GM]Dave>> Are you ready to hear the rules?
Player>> Sure!
[GM]Dave>> You have to stay in here for 24 hours straight.
[GM]Dave>> No logging out.
[GM]Dave>> And no going AFK. I'll be checking.
Player>> I can do that. Easy.
Player>> It'll take me that long to kill them all.
[GM]Dave>> That brings us to rule number two.
[GM]Dave>> Please don't kill any of them.
Player>> ...
Player>> What?
[GM]Dave>> If you touch even one of them, you get banned.
[GM]Dave>> That includes magic, attacks, anything.
[GM]Dave>> Banned.
Player>> ...
Player>> Are you kidding?
Player>> I can't kill any of them?
[GM]Dave>> Nope.
[GM]Dave>> I asked you not to, remember?
Player>> This is cruel.
[GM]Dave>> I know.

Can you imagine being surrounded by some of the most sought after NMs in the game...

And not being allowed to touch them?

I'm pretty sure he went insane after about fifteen minutes.

Still, I did ask him nicely.

artay · Dec 31, 2007, 09:34 AM // 09:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

I did a run-through of all active districts this afternoon and didn't see this griefing going on. If you do see someone doing it, feel free to report that person. We don't have the "/report: unfestive behavior" command in place yet and I know we can't do a leeching (for "leeching the fun out of the event") report in towns.

If you want to report, maybe with a screenshot, feel free. The Support Team responded to my questions about this that, given sufficient proof, they would likely block the account of those who were doing it.

I just hope that everyone stops and remembers that thing called "Holiday Spirit."

/signed for unfestive behaviour option.

Alex Morningstar · Dec 31, 2007, 09:44 AM // 09:44

I <3 GM Dave

BladeDVD · Dec 31, 2007, 09:55 AM // 09:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sea Edge

Maybe it's related.

If your quote is supposed to be a negative comment on those not happy about these griefers , I would point out that many people like GW because of its instanced gameplay for the very reason the player in that quote was complaining about.

Moreover, in that case, it was a game designer decision that some players would be able to interfere with other players gameplay.

The present drop stuff was not intended to be a way for some players to grief other players.

Not really the same thing.

aaje vhanli · Dec 31, 2007, 11:02 PM // 23:02

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Originally Posted by Redfeather1975

How about if someone does this, nothing happens right away...but when they are getting their wintersday hat they are given a lump of coal instead, and a note that they were a bad boy/girl this year with a screenshot of them hiding presents.

That would be hilarious if Wintersday 2009 finale gave coal out to players depending on a reflection of their "appropriate" or "inappropriate" in-game behavior throughout the year.